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Barber and Customer conversation on "Does God Exist?"

2009-01-10T23:00:00.000+05:30

A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed. As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation. As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation. They talked about many things and various subjects. When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said,”I don’t believe that God exists.”

“Why do you say that?” asked the customer. “Well, you just have to go out in the street to realise that God doesn’t exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people? Would there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain. I can’t imagine a loving God who would allow all of these things.”

The customer thought for a moment, but did not respond because he did not want to start an argument.

The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop. Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard. He looked dirty and unkempt.

The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber,”You know what? Barbers do not exist.”

“How can you say that?” asked the surprised barber. “I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you.”

“No!” the customer exclaimed. “Barbers don’t exist because if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside.”

“Ah, but barbers DO exist!” answered the barber. “What happens is people do not come to me.”

“Exactly!” affirmed the customer. “That’s the point! God, too, DOES exist! What happens is people don’t go to Him and do not look for Him. That’s why there’s so much pain and suffering in the world.”

A Practical Man's Proof of God Existence - Proof 4 (Bayes Theorem)

2009-01-09T20:00:00.000+05:30

A BRITISH physicist has calculated that the mathematical probability of God existing is two-to-one in favor.

But even though some scientists might find these odds exceptionally high, Dr Stephen Unwin was surprised. As a committed Christian, his own faith had persuaded him previously that there was a more than 90 per cent chance that God really existed.

Dr Unwin, a graduate of Imperial College, London who studied for his doctorate at Manchester University, used the 200-year-old Bayes' Theorem to calculate that there was a 67 per cent chance that God existed.

He weighed the existence of evil and suffering against miracles, divided into supernatural events and miracles that occur when prayers are answered. He also factored in free will, humankind's innate goodness and sense of morality and the many philosophical arguments both for and against the existence of God.

Bayes' Theorem is named after Thomas Bayes, an 18th-century English mathematician who was also a Presbyterian minister. The theorem emerged in the 20th century after a group of mathematicians decided there must be more to probability than tossing a coin.

Bayesians believe that probability is the level of partial belief that something is true on a scale of nought to one hundred. Dr Unwin, who is now resident in the US having been sent on secondment to the Department of Energy, where he was employed to calculate the probability of nuclear s, has his own consulting company in Columbus, Ohio, where he specializes in risk analysis and risk management.

He spells out his argument for the probability of the existence of God in a new book, The Probability of God: A Simple Calculation that Proves the Ultimate Truth, to be published in the UK on April 30.

The equation calculates "posterior probability" by multiplying "prior probability" by the "likelihood function". This is represented mathematically as P(G|E)=A.P(G).P(E|G). In the equation, G is the proposition that God exists and E is the evidence.

Dr Unwin, 48, said: "Bayes's Theorem works by looking at the evidence around and calculates whether the evidence would be more likely to be produced if the proposition, G, was true or false. I lined up a series of areas of evidence, some in favor of the truth of the proposition and some not in favor."

He said his analysis started from a position of "absolute ignorance" as to whether God existed. "Most people, when they address these things, have an established view and want to eliminate uncertainties. I wanted to go to the areas commonly debated and embrace rather than eliminate the uncertainties."

My views:
Keep everything aside and think this way. There could be two possibilities, one god exists and other he doesn't. If he exists then all relevant theories of hell and heaven, must be true too else not. Now assuming that he doesn't exists and so does his theories of hell and heaven, we can start living a criminal life, since we'll never be put up in hell as there would be no record of our crimes after we die. We can start living selfishly. But doing so, will make living this life too. Moreover, in case if god would be existing and so does our crime record up to him then it would be hell afterward too. So its better to live a spiritual life committing nice and good causes on earth, making it livable for others too.

In other words, since there is no proof of god's non-existence too. It is at least 50% that he exists, so if we can't spent money on god and temples/churches, we can better use our money for orphans, old age homes, poor peoples and needful persons. Because if other 50% (which says that he don't exists) goes false, then we would be having no more time to do good things again.

A Practical Man's Proof of God Existence - Proof 3

2009-01-08T20:00:00.000+05:30

A third scientific proof that the atheist is wrong is seen in the second law of thermodynamics. In any closed system, things tend to become disordered. If an automobile is driven for years and years without repair, for example, it will become so disordered that it would not run any more. Getting old is simple conformity to the second law of thermodynamics. In space, things also get old. Astronomers refer to the aging process as heat death. If the cosmos is "everything that ever was or is or ever will be," as Dr. Carl Sagan is so fond of saying, nothing could be added to it to improve its order or repair it. Even a universe that expands and collapses and expands again forever would die because it would lose light and heat each time it expanded and rebounded.

The atheist's assertion that matter/energy is eternal is scientifically wrong. The biblical assertion that there was a beginning is scientifically correct.

A Practical Man's Proof of God Existence - Proof 2

2009-01-07T20:00:00.000+05:30

A second proof is seen in the energy sources that fuel the cosmos.

Like all stars, the sun generates its energy by a nuclear process known as thermonuclear fusion. Every second that passes, the sun Sun Image compresses 564 million tons of hydrogen into 560 million tons of helium with 4 million tons of matter released as energy. In spite of that tremendous consumption of fuel, the sun has only used up 2% of the hydrogen it had the day it came into existence. This incredible furnace is not a process confined to the sun. Every star in the sky generates its energy in the same way. Throughout the cosmos there are 25 quintillion stars, each converting hydrogen into helium, thereby reducing the total amount of hydrogen in the cosmos. Just think about it! If everywhere in the cosmos hydrogen is being consumed and if the process has been going on forever, how much hydrogen should be left?

Suppose I attempt to drive my automobile without putting any more gas (fuel) into it. As I drive and drive, what is eventually going to happen? I am going to run out of gas I If the cosmos has been here forever, we would have run out of hydrogen long ago! The fact is, however, that the sun still has 98% of its original hydrogen. The fact is that hydrogen is the most abundant material in the universe! Everywhere we look in space we can see the hydrogen 21 cm line in the spectrum_a piece of light only given off by hydrogen. This could not be unless we had a beginning!

A Practical Man's Proof of God Existence - Proof 1

2009-01-06T20:00:00.000+05:30

If we do exist, there are only two possible explanations as to how our existence came to be. Either we had a beginning or we did not have a beginning. The Bible says, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" (Genesis 1 :1). The atheist has always maintained that there was no beginning. The idea is that matter has always existed in the form of either matter or energy; and all that has happened is that matter has been changed from form to

form, but it has always been. The Humanist Manifesto says, "Matter is self-existing and not created," and that is a concise statement of the atheist's belief.

The way we decide whether the atheist is correct or not is to see what science has discovered about this question. The picture below on the left represents our part of the cosmos. Each of the disk shaped objects is a galaxy like our Milky Way. All of these galaxies are moving relative to each other. Their movement has a very distinct pattern which causes the distance between the galaxies to get greater with every passing day.

Now let us suppose that we made time run backwards! If we are located at a certain distance today, then yesterday we were closer together. The day before that, we were still closer. Ultimately, where must all the galaxies have been? At a point! At the beginning! At what scientists call a singularity!

A Practical Man's Proof of God Existence - Introduction

2009-01-05T20:00:00.000+05:30

The existence of God is a subject that has occupied schools of philosophy and theology for thousands of years. Most of the time, these debates have revolved around all kinds of assumptions and definitions. Philosophers will spend a lifetime arguing about the meaning of a word and never really get there. One is reminded of the college student who was asked how his philosophy class was going. He replied that they had not done much because when the teacher tried to call roll, the kids kept arguing about whether they existed or not.

Most of us who live and work in the real world do not concern ourselves with such activities. We realize that such discussions may have value and interest in the academic world, but the stress and pressure of day-to-day life forces us to deal with a very pragmatic way of making decisions. If I ask you to prove to me that you have $2.00, you would show it to me. Even in more abstract things we use common sense and practical reasoning. If I ask you whether a certain person is honest or not, you do not flood the air with dissertations on the relative nature of honesty; you would give me evidence one way or the other. The techniques of much of the philosophical arguments that go on would eliminate most of engineering and technology if they were applied in those fields.

The purpose of this brief study is to offer a logical, practical, pragmatic proof of the existence of God from a purely scientific perspective. To do this, we are assuming that we exist, that there is reality, and that the matter of which we are made is real. If you do not believe that you exist, you have bigger problems than this study will entail and you will have to look elsewhere.